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Wellred Weekly
Volume 1, Number 5 : February 7, 2012
 
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The English Vice?
reported by islandcarol

Can it be true? Keira Knightley, who plays the psychiatric patient Sabina Spielrein in David Cronenberg's film A Dangerous Method, believes that the English are fixated on spanking. She reveals that no one mentioned the spanking scene during the whole of the three days the cast were in Venice during the film festival but that...

"In England it got mentioned all the time," she said. "I don't know what that says about us. We obviously like spanking."

Can it be that spanking for sexual pleasure is a purely English pastime? Picture the quintessential English schoolmaster, formal, gracefully robed wielding a lethal cane and shivering with excitement as he prepares to flog a line up of young boys. But wait, one should consider it is not the English that coined the word sadism, but a Frenchman, De Sade.

Writing in The Telegraph, Theodore Dalrymple observes that he encountered two types of dominatrix amongst his patients: those who were less attractive who tended to flog the lower classes whilst those who appeared high class, sexy and powerful whipped the upper classes, establishment figures, and others of influence.

Dalrymple examines the conflicting idea that experiencing pain can cause erotic excitement. Psychiatrists and human sexologists have studied and classified masochistic perversions. Alfred Kinsey, an American, studied human sexology and chronicled his extensive findings on masochistic pleasures. Some may say, those who can withstand pain are tough. Tough is good because it promotes survival, someone with a taste for pain can pass that toughness onto his/her offspring. Others, prone to dominance take pleasure in inflicting pain. That is truly a symbiotic relationship.

Lastly, Dalrymple examines the question which has long been long debated: when inflicting pain on children in the form of punishment, does it predispose that child to masochism? Since spanking children is outlawed in Sweden, for example, he wonders whether masochism been extinguished in that country? Still, one would hope that those who actually wished to be spanked or flogged or beaten should be permitted to make themselves happy.

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9 comments:
TheEnglishMaster said...
A fascinating summary of many key issues - thank you: very clearly presented.
7 February 2012 19:46
Cal33 said...
Interesting and well-done article, island Carol. As a Yank, I must say I love to imagine our friends across the pond as having ’the English vice.’ Their spanking stories always seem to have an air of authenticity to them. Perhaps between their school system, lousy climate, and impulsive nature, a predilection for spanking is inevitable. That’s my perception, and I’m sticking to it!
8 February 2012 15:44
blimp said...
I know it's called The English Vice but it was the French who coined the term according to Ian Gibson in his book, The English Vice. Apparently the French brothels did a roaring trade in thrashing upper class young Englishmen who wanted to relive their schooldays. The French coined the expression and it stuck. I am sure it could be just as aptly named The German Vice or after any number of other countries who seem equally as obsessed as ourselves. Perhaps we should call it the American Vice in future? Must make a point of seeing that film. Many thanks for an excellent article.

PS That schoolmaster you mention, he is probably not shivering with excitement, he is probably just shivering because there was no heating!!
9 February 2012 13:50
swishswitch said...
Very interesting article which could have been much much longer to cover all the issues highlighted.
Whilst very proud to be English and arrogant to say I am the very embodiment of "the English vice", I want to put a word in for the Russians. In "The Brothers Karamazov" Dostoyevski states that the Russian love of beating their children is part of their nature. If there was any doubt about the sexual element of corporal punishment he writes that the village girls submitted willingly to public chastisement as they were virtually guaranteed a proposal of marriage soon afterwards.
10 February 2012 00:36
blackbirch said...
Interesting overview. It is called the English Vice often enough, but, as others have said, it is pretty universal.
The Japanese love it, so it isn't just European. The Germans and Central Europeans like Czechs and Hungarians are particularly keen, and we need not mention the Russians.
Something I long have wondered about is the suspicion that the spanking fetish may die out as spanking is so discouraged/banned in the west. Not so, however, as the number of very young enthusiasts on various forum and blog sites attests.
11 February 2012 00:19
njrick said...
And don't forget Americans, blackbirch - we love it too! Great little article, i-carol. I don' think you needed to go into anything beyond a summary, hitting the major points.
11 February 2012 01:49
barretthunter said...
Cal - I presume the English school system you're referring to is the public school (= private school, of course) system. The vast majority of us go through the state system which is generally much less strict - and corporal punishment in state schools was abolished in the late 1970s, so those who have experience of it are a dying breed! I was fascinated that you see us as impulsive. Southern Europeans see us as the opposite! The French traditionally see us as cold and reserved (though also devious) and the Finns as polite and friendly.

Thanks for this thought-provoking article, IC.
16 February 2012 17:48
mati said...
At the question why erotic spanking is called the English Vice and not also the German Vice I already answered in another place: even if Germans enjoy spanking as much as the English, the Germans don't consider spankings being a "vice".

The expression "English vice" has a very positive connotation for me. It includes something wicked, exciting, sensual and erotic. I think in Germany all methods of beating are historically more to satisfy sadistic (or masochistic) feelings. Sexual arousal is often not the goal, but rather a side product. We even have no word in our language to describe erotic spanking, that alone reveals why nobody talks about a German vice.
16 February 2012 19:37
frankfane said...

As a limey I have long since ceased to be embarrassed that England has the (undeserved) reputation for being the centre of the CP universe. I suppose there are subconscious associations with the term "motherland" in those countries where English is the main language

When the term "La Vice Anglaise" was coined it must have been around the time the Marquis De Sade was earning his own word in the dictionary (and of course two centuries after Reine Margot wrote approvingly about fesser). So even if the misbehaviour was rife 'outremars' the French chez-eux were not unfamiliar with the practice. The French are insouciant naturally:. fesser turns people on, so what. So I assume La Vice Anglaise referred as much to the endless neurotic discussions beyond La Manche as to the practice itself. Les Anglais are always overreacting to things..

Here in the exceedingly respectable Spanking Library we do actually like a bit of endless titillating discussion of our favourite vice. For us, vive La Vice Anglaise.
10 March 2012 13:35

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Disney Faces Spanking Lawsuit
reported by islandcarol

A mother of two is slamming the Disney Channel with a not so friendly family lawsuit. Kelli Rodriguez claims that while she was at a live taping of Good Luck Charlie with her two children, her sister-in-law and her three children, she noticed the comedian, Ron Pearson, eyeing her up before the audience participation segment.

Later, when she was invited on stage to dance to the Village People's YMCA in order to compete for a prize he began spanking her repeatedly. The suit says, 'The unwarranted and unconsented spanking was relentless and did not cease until the plaintiff physically turned around to stop it.'

After the contest Rodriguez claims Pearson asked for a kiss on the cheek. When she consented, Rodriguez claims Pearson turned his face and kissed her fully on the mouth.

Rodriguez claims it was not only unwarranted and humiliating, but that it left her children sad and confused. Later they asked their mommy, "Why did that man kiss you?"

Pearson brands himself as a family comedian. In the bio on his website he says he is taking his "keeping it clean brand of humor" to new levels. As a clean comedian he can take his act from comedy clubs to Christian comedy or family events.

The lawsuit is targeting both Pearson and the Disney Channel because the Disney Channel condoned, encouraged or ratified his behavior by employing him in the first place; neither Pearson nor Disney has commented at this time.


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